I never would have guessed that the people of the UK would extirpate the bureaucracy that is the EU, for their freedom. You will understand, in time, where we were 240 years ago.
My friends, I am going to lose a lot of money today, because of that vote.
Your freedom is worth it.
Look, I don’t know anything about what’s going on over there, but the way I’m seeing this played out, this is a repudiation of political bureaucracy. A shedding of the EU’s repugnant rules and regulation handed down by the powers that be outside of your own country.
Of course the bureaucrats are going to waive their hands in the air and scream from their perch on high, “The sky is falling, the sky is falling”! They always do when their grip on power and endless money is threatened.
The truth is simple. Bureaucrats, to justify their existence and worth, eventually overreach their welcome. In a bid to be all things to all people, they end up losing sight of being useful to those they’re beholden to in the first place.
As to whether or not it was the right thing to do, I have no opinion. It’s what you did. I hope it works out well for you.
Amen!!!!!!!!!! I was born in England. I’m still a British subject. I was thrilled with the result for all the reasons you mention and more.
well said friend
Beautifully put! Democracy spoke and everyone, regardless of their views has to make the best of it.
I’ll make the best of it but I don’t have to like this stupid decision.
Firstly, I’m going to be stripped of part of my citizenship against my will. That sucks.
Secondly, the UK has voted to leave an international democracy and hand its powers to the least democratic layer of government we have: the one with the lower chamber elected mostly in winner takes all single runoffs, the upper chamber containing people who’ve done political favours or hold high religious office or have ancestors who did political or royal favours and who can never be sacked even if convicted of perverting the course of justice!
Thirdly, the UK voted for lies: that £350m/week would go into healthcare, that immigration would be cut substantially, that the exit process would start promptly… one by one, the lies are being revealed.
Oh and as for EU law being “handed down by the powers that be outside of your own country” – the UK was on the winning side over 80% of the time, so mostly we were handing down the laws!
Wow, 80%?! That’s better than two-thirds free! That must feel 80% awesome!
Oh, better! So you get to be 80% of a dictatorial regime? Wow, too bad we had to split from that!
Look at it this way: how pissed would you be if other people took your US citizenship away and said you’d have nasty border checks and probably visa problems to visit the other states you could have just moved to whenever you wanted?
Yep, that would put me over the edge. In fact, I actually thought about that on my own. It is very possible you got hosed on that count but you have to wonder, why would the EU go all “high on the violence” by requiring border checks at the same time. Why would they retaliate like that when you’d think the good liberal thing to do would be to try to win the UK back. I see where you’re coming from though and I apologize for my ignorance in the matter.
The EU is many things, but liberal isn’t one. I think it’s mostly the same sort of conservative/progressive yoyo that most European governments have. I’m not sure if the liberals have ever held a majority in either chamber or the commission!
The EU generally reciprocates on border controls, so the main reason we’d suffer nasty border controls is if the UK imposes them on visitors from other EU states – which is exactly what some Leave politicians are calling for 😦
Anyway, so far, nothing has changed. The UK government is refusing to enact the referendum result for months at least. But we don’t know what happens next. And uncertainty is pretty toxic for the economy.
Oh, I get all that. Even if what you’d written all comes true as you fear, I’d have voted Leave, personally. I’m a vigorous fan of Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, and to an extent Adams (even if Adams suggested we refer to our new President as “your majesty). There once was a time when people like President Obama would be too embarrassed to try much of what he has. I miss those days.
Why would you vote Leave? Would you vote to Leave the USA, by the same logic?
While I see your logic, it’s not quite the same thing, and I think you know this. We are a Republic of States. The 50 States are one Nation. Now, say we formed the North/South American Alliance… Canada, Us, and all of South America…. I’d vote for Leave if someone down there sneezed wrong.
It’s not quite the same, but this is more like a few states breaking away from the USA than the USA leaving NAFTA. After all, the UK is itself a union of several nations, not one nation itself. I’m English, not Ukish. But I’m European and I want to keep my citizenship.
So, how would you feel if your state and a few neighbours voted to leave the union? Didn’t that cause a war when it happened before? I’m hoping Europe will avoid that this time, at least!
I didn’t say nafta. The UK is a sovereign country, as is the US. Michigan can’t vote to break away from the US like London can’t leave Great Britain or the UK…. And your grasp of American History might need a touch up. The battle to end slavery split the nation in two. The North and the South.
Humorously, those who fought to KEEP slavery and it’s bast bastard cousin, segregation, are our Democrats.
I’d weight to see what France does before you worry about a war. Besides, nobody has any guns over there. You have nothing to worry about.
What, you mean like Scotland can’t break away from the UK or southern Ireland couldn’t break away from the UK? The UK itself only has the pooled sovereignty of its parts. It is several countries. It is possible but difficult for its parts to leave.
Do you even read my responses?!
Yes but they seem to keep making the same mistake about the UK being one country and somehow, so I’m wondering if you’re reading mine?
Contrary to your suggestion it can’t happen, there is actually a “Londependence” movement calling for London (which voted to remain) to leave the UK and become a city-state like Singapore.
Damned spell checker got me. Should have been “wait”.